Bob Iger has been back at Disney for just a few months, but we’re already seeing some big changes.
Recently, Iger announced a massive restructuring at the Company, discussed how Disney’s theme park pricing was “alienating” some and how they’re taking steps to change that, and also made comments about Disney managing capacity to shift the mix away from Annual Passholders. So what’s next? Well, it looks like big changes could be on the way when it comes to Disney’s streaming service and Hulu.
We’ve taken a DEEP dive at the battle Disney must fight to acquire Hulu, but it looks like Iger may be reconsidering that battle. By way of background, Disney already owns 67% of Hulu, and Comcast’s NBCUniversal owns the remaining amount.
According to Yahoo, under the deal made back in 2019, Disney got “full operational control” of Hulu. And, as early as January 2024, “Comcast can require Disney to buy NBCUniversal’s interest in Hulu and Disney can require NBCUniversal to sell that interest to Disney for its fair market value at that future time.”
Basically, Disney could require Comcast to sell their interest in 2024, and many expected that Disney would do that or would potentially try to make that purchase sooner. Buying Hulu FAST appeared to be on Bob Chapek’s radar when he was CEO, as he once told CNBC that he’d love to own Comcast’s 33% stake in Hulu “tomorrow.” Chapek shared, “I would like nothing more than to come up with that solution for an early agreement.”
Iger also previously seemed to really value Hulu. Back in 2019, when Disney made the deal to get full operational control of Hulu, Iger (who was still CEO of Disney) shared that “Hulu represents the best of television, with its incredible array of award-winning original content, rich library of popular series and movies, and live TV offerings.”
One insider cited by Deadline seemed to think that the deal was likely — “Iger likes deals, and he loves acquisitions, so it is only a matter of time for the next one, just watch.”
But now it seems like things may have changed, or at least Disney’s attitude toward acquiring the rest of Hulu has changed. In an interview, CNBC’s David Faber pointed out that in 2024 Disney could get hit with a BIG bill to acquire Comcast’s remaining interest in Hulu. Iger shared that Disney is intent on reducing its debt over time.
And he noted that he has some concerns about undifferentiated general entertainment given the current competitive landscape. Though Iger pointed out that Hulu is a successful platform and a “good consumer proposition,” “everything is on the table right now.”
Iger insisted that he would not speculate whether Disney would be a buyer or seller when it comes to Hulu, but he said that they would be looking at things very objectively and Disney is currently open-minded about it all.
David Faber pointed out that the “assumption has been that [Disney] will buy what you don’t already own of Hulu.” To which Iger responded, “I think I’m suggesting that may not necessarily be the case.”
.@Disney CEO Bob Iger discusses @hulu with @davidfaber, telling him that "everything is on the table."@davidfaber: I think the assumption has been that you will buy what you don't already own of Hulu.
Iger: I think I'm suggesting that may not necessarily be the case.$DIS pic.twitter.com/fVFAnwdvDI— Squawk on the Street (@SquawkStreet) February 9, 2023
Rogers noted that the situation gets complicated since some of the subscriptions at issue would be those that are already bundled with Disney+. But he said, “You have to ask, what does Hulu do for them that they cannot do with Disney+?” If Disney keeps things like the FOX library and FX, “Why couldn’t they build out Disney+ into a broader general entertainment kids and family service?” Rogers noted that this is essentially what’s happening internationally with Disney+ and Star.
"Disney is stronger without Hulu than with Hulu," says @EngineMedia Executive Chairman Tom Rogers. "You have to ask, what does Hulu do for them that they cannot do with Disney+? Why couldn't they build out Disney+ into a broader general entertainment kids and family service?" pic.twitter.com/gyqbHnC42P
— Squawk Box (@SquawkCNBC) February 9, 2023
He noted that, as Iger seemed to indicate, you don’t really want to compete long-term in general entertainment because it is too competitive and there’s not enough differentiation. So, to him, this appeared to mark a step in the right direction.
.@MoffettNathanso’s Michael Nathanson reacts to @RobertIger's comments on @Disney's stake in Hulu.
Nathanson doesn’t think there’s a “natural buy” for Hulu, but notes “the best outcome would be to recreate the joint venture [Disney] had with Comcast.” $DIS $CMCSA pic.twitter.com/HspEfMHmbP
— Squawk on the Street (@SquawkStreet) February 9, 2023
Interestingly, Nelson Peltz, who recently ended the proxy battle at Disney, felt a bit differently previously. He shared that, in his opinion, Disney either needed to buy Hulu or just get out of the streaming business. (CNBC) But perhaps this middle ground of getting out of the Hulu world and just sticking to Disney+ could still appease him.
CNBC calls Iger’s viewpoint a “stark reversal in strategy for the company.” Chapek previously had held a conversation with Comcast CEO Brian Roberts about Hulu, but CNBC notes that “Comcast executives walked away from those discussions resigned to taking Disney’s money in 2024 rather than gaining full ownership of Hulu.” It seems that may be changing now.
According to CNBC, “When Iger acquired the majority of Fox’s assets for $71 billion in 2019, one of his primary motivating factors was to make sure Comcast didn’t acquire a majority stake in Hulu.” Comcast CEO Roberts actually “made a hostile bid to acquire Disney for $54 billion in 2004,” and an NBCUniversal CEO left Disney to work for Roberts in 1998. But Roberts and Iger reportedly still have a strong “working relationship.”
And they’ll need that relationship if any kind of deal is going to be ironed out when it comes to Hulu, especially when it comes to finding a fair market value if Disney does decide to buy out Comcast’s interest.
Will Disney put its interest in Hulu for sale? Will it find some kind of middle ground with Comcast and NBCUniversal? How could this change the content we see on Disney+ or the number of subscribers at Disney+? Much remains to be seen.
Remember that the critical Hulu date isn’t until 2024, so we’ve got some time, but we’ll be keeping an eye out for updates.
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How do you think Iger should handle the Hulu situation? Tell us in the comments.
Ronjon says
It seems to me that all of Disney’s business issues troubles are the streaming division. So other than stocks, it doesn’t seem to have a direct impact on the parks other than the parks taking a back seat when it comes to Disney overall. This why I believe Disney did alienated a lot of guest when their severe prices increses at the parks and hotels along with Nickel and Dimming everything they could at the parks and hotels. Because they are so focused on the streaming division, they didn’t give much thought about price increases at the parks and hotels as seems it was a quick and easy way to increases revenue rather than taking into consideration on the impact of guest. They obviuosly can’t reverse all the price increases, but they stop the increases for now and the near future.
pattie says
We don’t care at all about Hulu t streaming we don’t do that and never will our concern is about Disney world and Disney land that’s where we have vacationed at so iger needs to do something about that and also read remarks about Disney adults i grew up on Disney and so has my family and read hateful remarks about us Disney adults and if people that makes these hateful remarks don’t like us being that’s to bad cause we will always n there and there r a lot us we get excited when we c Mickey and Minnie and the rest and Walt Disney created Disney for ALL ages so get over yourselves and if u don’t like it then stay home
Mary Kosloske says
Why doesn’t Disney just sell the Parks to someone who actually cares! It seems that they’re not very interested in them anymore. They’re dirtier than I’ve ever seen them and it’s clear they don’t care about families anymore! Just saying.🙄
pattie says
Mary we agree they don’t care about Disney park goers it’s all about what they can do with this streaming rhat they have done and their investers they have destroyed. What Walt Disney created and then iger is getting rid of 1000 people and wants to keep doing the same thing a lot of people thought that when iger came back he would make it better he is no better than chapek cause iger placed the candle and chapek lit they disgraced this wonderful man named Walter Elias Disney who had a dream for all ages and created and also with the mouse
Ken says
The parks are the cash cow for Disney. They can’t give them up because they need the cash to flow into the poorly performing divisions like Hulu and other streaming enterprises. They are loosing their older fan base and they do not seem to care because they are being replaced by a new, more affluent younger fan base who have not idea how good the parks were vs. how crowded and expensive they are now. The problem is that the Biden democrats have pumped too much money into the economy to keep is rosy, and now everything is more expensive. everything…. We need the govt. to dry up some of the excessive cash in the economy and that means higher taxes for everyone….Everyone will continue to pay more for everything.
pattie says
I agree about Disney not caring about us disney faithful that have gone there for years and not EVERYONE should pay higher taxes the BIG CORPORATIONS not the middle class WE have have always been the support the poor can’t pay and the rich don’t and if the middle class goes there goes the country and that is the truth
Carolyn says
Disney+ is severely lacking in content, if Iger would offer Disney+ and Hulu for an annual fee instead of monthly for both I would definitely sign up for it, as annual is cheaper than monthly. I don’t need another MONTHLY BILL to pay, pay for the year and be done with it.
I mentioned this before and I will mention this again…….since we the people are paying for fast passing with over 60 million visiting a year, keep it a stable charge of $10.00 per person. Iger has the power, he can do this.
The parks are severely in disrepair, rides are continuously breaking down. Updating and maintenance should be a priority.
Carolyn says
I mean’t Genie + at $10.00 per person