Disney has been caught in a number of battles lately, and now Bob Iger has spoken up on a few of them.
When it comes to the Reedy Creek Improvement District drama and Disney’s battles with Governor DeSantis, Iger shared that some of DeSantis’ actions were “anti-business” and “anti-Florida.” And now Iger has responded to some more general criticism Disney has received about agenda-driven content.
The Question
During the 2023 Shareholder Meeting, Iger responded to a few questions from shareholders. One particular question was from William Russel from New York. Russel said that he’d like to address the “elephant in the room.” Russel shared that in his opinion Disney has turned from a place of magic for children to an “ideological company serving LGBTQIA+…lobbies to groom children.”
He said that in his opinion Disney’s films and entertainment are “increasingly promoting the woke agenda.” He then asked, “How can you explain to parents worldwide that you recently celebrated 100 years of history by collaborating with the San Francisco Gay Men’s Chorus, to produce an LGBTIA+-themed Disney musical? This is a group who have explicitly stated that they want to indoctrinate children. They literally sang a concert and they sang the words ‘we will convert your children, Quietly and subtly. And you will barely notice it.’ Disney chose to collaborate with these predators to sing to children.”
He also asked, “how can you explain to parents worldwide that over the next few months, dozens of highly sexualized gay pride parades will take place in Disneyland parks worldwide, the exact places where they used to take their children for fun?” He noted, “parents have simply had it up to here.”
In conclusion, he said he had a “simple question — would it not be beneficial for the Company to ditch the LGBTQIA+ and gender ideology for good?” His advice? “Turn Disney back to the a-political fun place that it used to be and I bet that you’ll win back both the trust of families and the stock market.”
Iger’s Response
In response, Iger noted that the comments were about more than just content but about experiences too, and in that regard, Iger said that Disney prides itself on being “accessible to all people.”
Iger continued, “we’ve been telling stories for 100 years aimed at entertaining and inspiring families from all over the world. And we’re extremely proud of the positive impact we’ve had on billions of people over that 100-year period of time. For generations, the stories that we’ve told have touched people’s hearts, because they’ve been infused with right values.”
In talking about those “right values” in Disney’s films, Iger said, “They’ve celebrated heroes, emphasized the value of family and friendship, they’ve instilled a steady faith in the belief that good triumphs over evil, that tomorrow is always brighter than today. And I think those stories have had an amazingly positive impact on the world, a world that always loves and needs great stories, and…great entertainment, particularly in today’s world.”
Iger then turned to the criticism, acknowledging, “We’ve recently gotten criticism…for what some perceive to be agenda-driven content. And I’m sensitive to that, actually. Our primary mission needs to be to entertain. And then through our entertainment to continue to have a positive impact on the world.”
Iger said, “I’m very serious about that. It should not be agenda driven. It should be entertainment driven. That should be the goal in all of our stories.”
Iger acknowledged that they likely won’t please everyone all of the time, but said, “we should be sensitive to the fact that parents have different levels of comfort with the content that is delivered to their children. I want parents to be able to trust the content that we’re creating for their children, and we’re committed to delivering age-appropriate content for family audiences while also telling stories that reflect the world around us and that foster greater understanding, greater perspective, greater acceptance of all people.”
He shared, it’s “my hope that Disney continues to be a source of hope and optimism for the world. And we’re honored to actually carry forth Walt’s legacy of inspiring joy and wonder for everyone.”
Want to know more about what’s happening here? Let’s break it down.
San Francisco Gay Men’s Chorus
In terms of the first accusation regarding the Gay Men’s chorus, this stems from a 2021 video. Fox News reported that the San Fransisco Gay Mens Chorus faced a “wave of backlash” after posting a video that it described as “ironic humor about fears surrounding children and the ‘gay agenda.'”
In the video, the chorus sang about indoctrinating children, specifically about having them be “more concerned about ‘fairness’ and ‘justice.'”
The lyrics include phrases like “We’ll convert your children. Happens bit by bit. Quietly and subtly. And you will barely notice it…We’ll convert your children. We’ll make them tolerant and fair.” In other lyrics, they said “We’ll convert your children. Someone’s gotta teach them not to hate…Your children will care about…fairness and justice for others.”
In response, the chorus argued that the far-right conservative media had “taken the lyrics out of context.” They also reportedly said that the video was obviously “tongue-in-cheek humor.”
An Important Message to the Chorus Family. ❤️ pic.twitter.com/XBpSY6r4j7
— SF Gay Men's Chorus (@SFGMC) July 8, 2021
It’s not exclusive to that group, however. It is a presentation that has been offered in multiple areas in years past and this year. You can see information about it being performed online by the Boston Gay Men’s Chorus, the Heartland Men’s Chorus in Kansas City, and the Denver Gay Men’s Chorus.
According to the description on the San Francisco Gay Men’s Chorus page, “You don’t have to be a Disney fan to find something to love. No matter your age, background, or sexual orientation, the selection of songs will touch your heart.”
Gay “Pride Parades”
In terms of the pride parades the individual spoke about, they may be referring to Gay Days, which take place within Disney’s parks.
Disney actually doesn’t sponsor or promote most Gay Days events, according to a 2022 article from The New York Times. Generally, the Gay Days group organizes their own events, similar to other conventions held at Disney resorts. They typically include visits to some of Disney’s theme parks, but there is no parade. Event-goers usually meet up in the park and wear similarly colored shirts.
Disney has celebrated Pride Month with food and merchandise in the past. And we have seen Disney a little more involved in Gay Days in Disneyland — where there was a D23 photo op and some Disney vendors in the Gay Days welcome center at Disney’s Grand Californian Resort.
And things are a bit more unique at Disneyland Paris, where Disney does coordinate the event. There, Disney says there will be a colorful pride parade where “Disney Characters dressed in rainbow colours celebrate diversity in their magnificent sparkling vehicles.”
Disney World is also hosting a gay rights summit in Orlando later this year. This is the 2023 Out & Equal Workplace Summit, aimed at discussing inclusivity and equality in the workplace. Disney is one of the organization’s top sponsors. Other partners include Bank of America, JP Morgan Chase & Co., Apple, Uber, Walgreens, and more. There are also government partners including the USDA, Department of State, and FDA.
The information about the summit’s events does not include mention of a pride parade.
UPDATE: Since the original writing of this post, there has been an update regarding pride events in the US related to Disney. At Disneyland, in 2023 the first Disneyland After Dark: Pride Nite event will take place. This event will “celebrate the LGBTQIA+ community and allies.” Disney has shared that there will be special entertainment, themed merchandise, and themed snacks.
Plus, there will be a Pride Nite cavalcade featuring Mickey, Minnie, Goofy, Clarabelle, Donald, and Daisy in new outfits.
Other Related Commentary
This wasn’t the only question about Disney’s involvement in cultural and political issues that Iger fielded during the Shareholder Meeting. Another individual asked whether it was wise for Disney to take a position on “political” issues.
Iger said, “I don’t think we should or can weigh in on every issue…But I strongly feel that we alone have to determine whether, when, or how to weigh in on an issue, whether it’s private or public. Of course with the standard that when we take a position on those matters, there’s a true reason why we have. And in almost all cases it has to be because it directly affects our business or our people.”
Iger also turned back to history to note that companies have been expressing their opinions on issues for decades, and he said the country is better off for that. Iger noted how this was particularly the case during the Civil Rights era, when many companies weighed in on “injustices they saw in America,” and he noted that it was “certainly true during World War 2 when those who stood in silence in some ways still carry the stain of indifference.”
He concluded by saying, “As long as I’m in the job, I’m gonna continue to [be] guided by a sense of decency and respect and trust our instincts that when we do weigh in, we weigh in because the issue is truly relevant to our business and to the people who work for us.”
We will continue to watch where Disney takes this matter from here, how things are handled in the future, and what Disney might speak up about in the years to come. Stay tuned for more updates.
Marcus says
Exposing kids to the fact gay people exist is not grooming and it is very appropriate. Gay people are okay and it’s fine for kids to know that. Gay isn’t an adult topic. Being woke is a very good thing. If you are not woke you are possibly a bigot.
C says
He needed to come out strong and just say the LGBTQIA+ community are not groomers or predators
Barbara Fritsche says
We are DVC members and we will NOT being going back to Disney! He is saying one thing but actually doing another. Disney is abandoning the family that Walt Disney cherished.
Christian says
The lgbt…. community are pushing a narrative that if you don’t agree with them then you are morally unjust. I don’t care about what other people’s views and values are, but don’t try to make me immoral if I don’t agree with your lifestyle. I should have the right to teach my children my own beliefs.
Charlie says
Looks to me like the biggest problem for Disney in this particular discussion is not Gay Pride but rather misinformation and the reaction it causes.
David says
Excellent reporting especially correcting the distortions which foment and project misinformed people’s
prejudices and fears. Just like the decades old hysteria over Blacks equal access to suburbia, Jews access to country clubs, etc., the struggle for acceptance always faces resentment and false accusations. Good for Disney and Iger for not taking the bait, and stay strong. Just love one another and stop the hate. When Walt addressed the opening day crowd at Disneyland, he said”Welcome” with no exceptions or exclusions.
Christina says
Good gravy. “We will convert your children, Quietly and subtly. And you will barely notice it” is such an obvious joke, William Russel should feel thoroughly embarrassed for even having brought it up. Newsflash – the people who are after your kids don’t tell you they’re after your kids.
Loranne says
Disney fails to recognize the insult they are inflicting upon the millions of people from many, many cultures and faiths that will NEVER embrace the lbgqt lifestyle as acceptable. Hence, the losses/disinterest their new movies/programming containing that agenda. They need to stop using children’s entertainment for that purpose.
Jill says
Ughhh… Disney definitely needs to go back to the family friendly values I use to have.
Megan says
I’m so tired of the right-wing fanatics in this country getting to say what everyone else can do with our children. It’s not “woke” to teach our children that the LGBTQIA+ community exists and SHOULD exist.
I would have liked for Iger to have been more forceful and stop this narrative that the LGBTQIA+ community are groomers and predators. One of the reasons we DO go to Disney is for inclusivity. My daughter is part of the community and she feels welcome at Disney. As DVC members, we support Disney because they embrace all walks of life. It’s about damn time the right-wingers accept that we are not going to back down in supporting the LGBTQIA+ community.
Brian says
You don’t have to carry Disney’s water.
Laurel Lane says
I don’t believe he really addressed or answered anything, just a bunch of word salad. It sounds great but meant nothing.
Lyn says
All up the WORLD in general is tired of the ANTI woke brigade. Being a decent human being accepting of others shouldn’t be the problem or fight that dense, self serving politicians have made it. Disney is certainly not the company it was even 20 years ago, but it hasn’t deteriorated because of being inclusive and supportive to others ways.
Lyn says
CHRISTIAN SAYS. more importantly YOUR children should have the right to decide their OWN beliefs, rather than being indoctrinated into yours.
Becky says
I have a very conservative viewpoint on this subject, but that is just my own personal opinion. That being said, we go to Disney usually once or twice a year, and never on any visit have I seen openly gay individuals making out or bothering other people nor has any cast member spoken to me about any such agendas. In fact, we did have a cast member who was transitioning help is in one of the hotel gift shops- she was very polite, friendly, and helpful. I think it’s just important to be kind to all people, which is what Walt would have wanted.
Barbara says
Just as you cannot groom a child to be straight, you cannot groom a child to be gay. My son knew he was gay when he was very young, years before I picked up on it. It is hardwired into the person. If anyone is grooming, it is the parents who instill fear and hatred of the LGBTQ+ community into their children’s minds. If you do not let your children see life in the world as it is, you are doing them a great disservice.
Charles Pryor says
Disney is dying a slow woke death!
Charles Pryor says
Don’t equal rights also wrap around inclusion?
Patty says
Woke, woke, woke…. I’m so sick of that word. I’ve been going to one Disney park or another since the 1970s and it gets better every time. For those that don’t agree with inclusion, people “being who they are” or can’t find it in themselves to be open and tolerant STAY HOME. Your fear and narrow mindedness has no place in my vacation. I bet you hated, maybe still do, blacks, Jews, Chinese and anyone else who doesn’t look like you. Drop the word “woke” from your vocabulary, open your hearts and minds and just maybe you’ll learn something. It’s not 1950 anymore.